[COM] South Road Superway | $842m | 3km

[drsmith]

Turn it into a freeway and be done with it....

A freeway would need to serve a small number of distant points, unlike a N-S connector which needs to serve most of the intersections along the way.

A typical urban freeway has entry and exit ramps ar regular intervals but one thing I did notice with the RAA's proposal is that there are no access points anywhere along the 6km length of the tunnel.

I would have thought that as a minimum access ramps would be warranted at Burbridge Road.

[adam73837]

Turn it into a freeway and be done with it....

THANKYOU!
Having all these specific lanes on a road like South Road (which is narrower than Wakefield Street between Vic Square and the Britannia Roundabout), is silly! Just contruct a freeway and be done with it! But wait! People are going to start complaining that Adelaide will become like Los Angeles! Everyone knows that that's pathetic! If we had built the Noarlunga and Salisbury Freeways in the 1960s, South Road wouldn't be the way it is now! South Road would have been used predominantly by the people going to/travelling within the suburbs that surround it; meanwhile, the commuters from the Northern and Southern Suburbs would use the freeway which they would get off at what is now Sir Donald Bradman Drive or Henley Beach Road! But no...

[Norman]

Not sure if anyone noticed, but the new New Connections mag is out now:

http://203.147.248.196/alt-host/assets/ ... CTIONS.pdf

[Shuz]

Adelaide needs a North-South corridor, no doubt about that. But what option would be more advantageous for our transport needs?

A freeway - which carries the maximum peak load of traffic. 4x4
A motorway - which carries the maximum off-peak load of traffic. 3x3 or 2x2
An expressway - which primarily caters for freight transport. 2x2

Personally I feel that we really should be prioritising our public transport for commuter travel and constructing an expressway to maximise our freight transport efficiency which will help the industries and our eeconomical productivity.

As I would have it, the Hackham rail corridor should be reinstated to offload the traffic congestion as it converges onto Main South Road, prioritising freight accessibility for the medium-term, whilst the long-term plan should be to construct an expressway adjacent, underneath, overhead or redevelop & widen South Road.

[muzzamo]

I'm not so sure about using the Hackham rail corridor.. We already have a North-South corridor in that stretch with the expressway.

[Cruise]

A freeway - which carries the maximum peak load of traffic. 4x4
A motorway - which carries the maximum off-peak load of traffic. 3x3 or 2x2
An expressway - which primarily caters for freight transport. 2x2

That is not how you define the difference between a Freeway, Motorway and an Expressway

[rogue]

Channel 9 were reporting tonight that part of the State Governments submission to Infrastructure Australia included a request for $2billion out of the $20billion total to be spent on making South Road non-stop with 3 lanes in each direction from the Port River Expressway to Southern Expressway.

Not sure if there was any substance, but Minister Conlon refused to pass comment on submission details.

[AtD]

$2b to upgrade one road, or $2b to upgrade the entire rail network. Which is better value?

[AG]

Channel 9 were reporting tonight that part of the State Governments submission to Infrastructure Australia included a request for $2billion out of the $20billion total to be spent on making South Road non-stop with 3 lanes in each direction from the Port River Expressway to Southern Expressway.

Not sure if there was any substance, but Minister Conlon refused to pass comment on submission details.

There's currently about $230 billion worth of infrastructure projects from the State Governments chasing about $70 billion worth of Federal Government funding (including the Building Australia Fund). There better be some good cost-benefit analysis in there for the South Road upgrade.

[Shuz]

Channel 9 were reporting tonight that part of the State Governments submission to Infrastructure Australia included a request for $2billion out of the $20billion total to be spent on making South Road non-stop with 3 lanes in each direction from the Port River Expressway to Southern Expressway.

Not sure if there was any substance, but Minister Conlon refused to pass comment on submission details.

There's currently about $230 billion worth of infrastructure projects from the State Governments chasing about $70 billion worth of Federal Government funding (including the Building Australia Fund). There better be some good cost-benefit analysis in there for the South Road upgrade.

That's a fuckload of property acqusition, and remind me if I'm wrong, but did they not only just construct a 2x2 underpass - at odds with the 3x3 road they seek to build?

[Cruise]

$2b to upgrade one road, or $2b to upgrade the entire rail network. Which is better value?

We need both for different reasons

[Norman]

They could always have a setup like this:

| Slip Lanes | Lane | Lane ||| Lane | Lane | Slip Lanes |

[Xaragmata]

The section from Grand Junction Rd to PRExy will apparently be 3 overpasses, with 4 lanes (not 6) ...

South Road scrutiny (Page 22 Weekly Times Messenger)

http://digitaledition.wktmessenger.com. ... _Messenger

[AtD]

Thanks for the article.

"SA Freight Council chairman Vincent Tremain said it would result in "a reduction in travel times and greenhouse gas emissions"

No it won't. The amount of GHG emitted from a marginal reduction in travel times would be more than offset by more cars making longer journeys. It will lead to an increase in GHG emissions.

Preaching to the choir. I know, I know.

[drwaddles]

"SA Freight Council chairman Vincent Tremain said it would result in "a reduction in travel times and greenhouse gas emissions"

No it won't. The amount of GHG emitted from a marginal reduction in travel times would be more than offset by more cars making longer journeys. It will lead to an increase in GHG emissions.

The hilarious thing is that the article even admits this through a quote from the Mayor of Port Adelaide:

An improvement of South Road that makes it easier to easier to access the Port River Expressway and Grand Junction Road is only going to increase the number of peopel driving through and visiting the Port.

It pains me to see road lobbyists sprout this tripe and the public just eat it up.