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rubberman wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 03, 2021 9:46 am

In 1836, a port was essential for a remote new colony. The river was barely navigable all year round before the barrages were installed.

Having said that, Governor Hindmarsh preferred Victor Harbor. That would have sufficed till it ran out of space and water, by which time rail technology would have been sufficiently developed to make connections to Murray Bridge...and Melbourne quite feasible. That would have left the Adelaide Plains, the most fertile in the State, to serve as the food bowl, rather than being built upon and thus lost to agriculture.

It also would have meant rail access to the East and North would have been much faster and easier, along with access to the River Murray for drinking etc, and transport in the early days.

Quite an interesting "what if".

Wow never knew that.
I've pondered the "what if Adelaide was in X place instead"..Goolwa/Hindmarsh island out towards Finnis, Currency Creek, Milang and Clayton Bay..
Dredged the waterways, a CBD located where Goolwa North is, the City spilling across onto the western point of Hindmarsh Island with high rise apartments...Lake Alexandrina and the beaches of the Coorong on our door step..towns dotted around the shore of the lake.

Very interesting to speculate. I just had a look at a map of the area, and assuming the CBD is where Goolwa North is now (and assuming Adelaide is about the same size as it currently is), we would have shoreline and water frontage exceeding that of Sydney Harbour. Adelaide would be a vastly different city to what it is now.

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rev wrote: ↑

Tue May 02, 2023 12:36 pm

Wow never knew that.
I've pondered the "what if Adelaide was in X place instead"..Goolwa/Hindmarsh island out towards Finnis, Currency Creek, Milang and Clayton Bay..
Dredged the waterways, a CBD located where Goolwa North is, the City spilling across onto the western point of Hindmarsh Island with high rise apartments...Lake Alexandrina and the beaches of the Coorong on our door step..towns dotted around the shore of the lake.

Many other places don't have just one huge city that draws everyone in. Various planning policies at times over the last 200 years have led to that situation here. We could have had large cities separate from Adelaide at Mount Gambier, Renmark/Berri, Murray Bridge/Monarto, Elizabeth, Port Pirie, Whyalla, Port Lincoln. They could all have fast regional rail for both passengers and freight between the cities (including Adelaide). Most of them could be large enough to have a multidiscipline campus of a university, a range of industry to provide a viable diversity of employment etc. Instead, we have concentrated everything on a large sprawling Adelaide and drained much of the urban vibrancy from most of the others.

All well in theory.
But in reality even if Adelaide was located at Victor Harbor or Port Lincoln or wherever, most likely it would have just sprawled and become one dominant city in SA anyway. Look at the other state capitals in Aus, they’ve become the dominant city in their respective states.

New $6m upgrade to ease traffic bottlenecks at intersection of Adam and Manton streets, Hindmarsh
An extra lane will be added to ease traffic congestion at a notorious pressure point on the outskirts of the CBD. See the flyover animation of the project.

Shashi Baltutis
Reporter

less than 2 min read
July 4, 2024 - 11:04AM


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A $6m project has been announced to ease city-bound traffic in an area “notorious” for build-up.

The east-west bottleneck will be widened with a second left turn lane from Manton St into Adam St at Hindmarsh.


An extra turning lane will be added from Manton St into Adam St to provide additional capacity for city-bound traffic. Picture: Supplied


Artist impression of the Manton St and Adam St intersection upgrade at Hindmarsh.

A new animation has been revealed which illustrates the easing of traffic in the area adjacent to the Entertainment Centre.

The project will provide safer an easier access to the sports and entertainment hub including Hindmarsh Stadium.

The right-hand turn from Manton St onto Adam St to allow access to the Hindmarsh precinct will be retained in the project.


An extra turning lane will be added from Manton St into Adam St to provide additional capacity for city-bound traffic. Picture: Supplied


How the upgraded intersection will look from the ground.

Infrastructure and Transport Minister Tom Koutsantonis said the project is “a welcome addition for western suburbs motorists”.

“It will reduce congestion and traffic flow restrictions by providing additional capacity for city bound traffic – alleviating a notorious bottleneck,” Mr Koutsantonis said.

“These network upgrades will ensure the proper functioning of the River Torrens to Darlington motorway and wider road network both during and after construction … of the project.”

Bardavcol, a South Australian company which has worked on projects such as the Flagstaff Rd upgrade, will deliver the upgrade at Hindmarsh.

Works are set to commence within weeks with completion scheduled for early next year.

About 30 jobs will be supported during construction.

rubberman wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 03, 2021 9:46 am

Eurostar wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 03, 2021 1:50 am

To think maybe the current Murray Bridge area should have been used for site of Adelaide

In 1836, a port was essential for a remote new colony. The river was barely navigable all year round before the barrages were installed.

Having said that, Governor Hindmarsh preferred Victor Harbor. That would have sufficed till it ran out of space and water, by which time rail technology would have been sufficiently developed to make connections to Murray Bridge...and Melbourne quite feasible. That would have left the Adelaide Plains, the most fertile in the State, to serve as the food bowl, rather than being built upon and thus lost to agriculture.

It also would have meant rail access to the East and North would have been much faster and easier, along with access to the River Murray for drinking etc, and transport in the early days.

Quite an interesting "what if".

rev wrote: ↑

Thu Jul 04, 2024 1:25 pm

New $6m upgrade to ease traffic bottlenecks at intersection of Adam and Manton streets, Hindmarsh
An extra lane will be added to ease traffic congestion at a notorious pressure point on the outskirts of the CBD. See the flyover animation of the project.

Shashi Baltutis
Reporter

less than 2 min read
July 4, 2024 - 11:04AM


Don't miss out on the headlines from SA News. Followed categories will be added to My News.

A $6m project has been announced to ease city-bound traffic in an area “notorious” for build-up.

The east-west bottleneck will be widened with a second left turn lane from Manton St into Adam St at Hindmarsh.


An extra turning lane will be added from Manton St into Adam St to provide additional capacity for city-bound traffic. Picture: Supplied


Artist impression of the Manton St and Adam St intersection upgrade at Hindmarsh.

A new animation has been revealed which illustrates the easing of traffic in the area adjacent to the Entertainment Centre.

The project will provide safer an easier access to the sports and entertainment hub including Hindmarsh Stadium.

The right-hand turn from Manton St onto Adam St to allow access to the Hindmarsh precinct will be retained in the project.


An extra turning lane will be added from Manton St into Adam St to provide additional capacity for city-bound traffic. Picture: Supplied


How the upgraded intersection will look from the ground.

Infrastructure and Transport Minister Tom Koutsantonis said the project is “a welcome addition for western suburbs motorists”.

“It will reduce congestion and traffic flow restrictions by providing additional capacity for city bound traffic – alleviating a notorious bottleneck,” Mr Koutsantonis said.

“These network upgrades will ensure the proper functioning of the River Torrens to Darlington motorway and wider road network both during and after construction … of the project.”

Bardavcol, a South Australian company which has worked on projects such as the Flagstaff Rd upgrade, will deliver the upgrade at Hindmarsh.

Works are set to commence within weeks with completion scheduled for early next year.

About 30 jobs will be supported during construction.

https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/sou ... 327fcca1fe

ChillyPhilly wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 10, 2025 9:26 am

Cross Road is in the news as the Liberals wanted to spend $573m to replace two intersections with...two intersections.

Here's a snippet. This is the Goodwood Road/Cross Road intersection.

rev wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 10, 2025 10:26 am

ChillyPhilly wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 10, 2025 9:26 am

Cross Road is in the news as the Liberals wanted to spend $573m to replace two intersections with...two intersections.

Here's a snippet. This is the Goodwood Road/Cross Road intersection.

It's not just "two intersections". It's quite clearly underpasses, with the intention to keep freight/traffic moving non-stop at major intersections, the same thing Labor has done elsewhere.
Like SouthAussie94 said, at least the Liberals are thinking about infrastructure ahead of time. Can't recall the last time we saw this sort of forward-thinking from the Liberal party in SA. I'ts not huge, but its at least a step in the right direction and sorely needed. Hopefully Labor doesn't regress as a result to try save/win some votes in these electorates. But I think they're right on Labor not being honest on what their plans/intentions are. Have to applaud the Liberals here for coming out with what they want to do, instead of the usual politics that gets played with our infrastructure, with delays and bs scheduled around elections.

The NSM wont be finished for nearly another decade, so now is a good time to start planning for this sort of stuff. Plenty of time to get it done.

rubberman wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 10, 2025 11:34 am

Or...buy the commercial properties. (Bowl and supermarket etc)

Build parking station(s), including underground under the whole intersection.

Build tram from the parking stations along Goodwood Road to the City.

Allow only local traffic along Goodwood Rd from Cross Road to the Glenelg tram line.

This would, eliminate peak hour traffic along Goodwood Road. Provide a fast alternative to City commuters. Mean that Cross Road traffic would be given far higher priority than now.