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[SWP] Re: Lot 14 (Old RAH Site)
Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2021 12:51 am
by NTRabbit
Yeah it looks like they shrank the footprint considerably, the government must have plans for the back half of the block currently occupied in the renders by a nondescript grass area.
[SWP] Re: Lot 14 (Old RAH Site)
Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2021 12:55 am
by bits
Love it, can we really build it?
[SWP] Re: Lot 14 (Old RAH Site)
Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2021 2:20 am
by Mpol02
If the ADL university redevelopment happens, north terrace will be quite the place for some great design.
[SWP] Re: Lot 14 (Old RAH Site)
Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2021 11:35 am
by Bob
The proposed building itself is unique but it needs to be positioned back from North Terrace.
Additionally, the theme of a consistent plane tree lined boulevard on the northern side of North Terrace will be broken due to this building being too close and their proposal to put native shrubs and pools up to the footpath.
This section of the footpath will be very hot in summer and disconnecting the Botantic Garden from the usual street trees that line North Terrace on that side if their planned native landscape theme goes ahead.
The eastern frontage of the Botantic Garden (Hackney Road), tried this native landscaping format, it looks shocking, is impractical, is very hot in summer. and does not entice visitors with a good entry feel.
We are in danger of making a blunder here with both the buildings position on the plot and the landscaping out the front, the proposed landscaping and associated water features could easily be moved to the rear of the building, or in the courtyard of the building, or stay at the front if the building is moved back.
[SWP] Re: Lot 14 (Old RAH Site)
Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2021 2:36 pm
by Listy
Mpol02 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 2:20 am
If the ADL university redevelopment happens, north terrace will be quite the place for some great design.
That seems unlikely, last year Adelaide Uni comprehensively shelved any infrastructure development for the next 5-10 years, aside from urgent maintenance.
[SWP] Re: Lot 14 (Old RAH Site)
Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2021 3:04 pm
by Spotto
Listy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 2:36 pm
Mpol02 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 2:20 am
If the ADL university redevelopment happens, north terrace will be quite the place for some great design.
That seems unlikely, last year Adelaide Uni comprehensively shelved any infrastructure development for the next 5-10 years, aside from urgent maintenance.
Was it shelved because of COVID or for other reasons?
[SWP] Re: Lot 14 (Old RAH Site)
Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2021 3:11 pm
by Patrick_27
Spotto wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 3:04 pm
Listy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 2:36 pm
Mpol02 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 2:20 am
If the ADL university redevelopment happens, north terrace will be quite the place for some great design.
That seems unlikely, last year Adelaide Uni comprehensively shelved any infrastructure development for the next 5-10 years, aside from urgent maintenance.
Was it shelved because of COVID or for other reasons?
Because the UoA was already broke, COVID only made it worse.
[SWP] Re: Lot 14 (Old RAH Site)
Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2021 9:58 pm
by ml69
Bob wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 11:35 am
The proposed building itself is unique but it needs to be positioned back from North Terrace.
Additionally, the theme of a consistent plane tree lined boulevard on the northern side of North Terrace will be broken due to this building being too close and their proposal to put native shrubs and pools up to the footpath.
This section of the footpath will be very hot in summer and disconnecting the Botantic Garden from the usual street trees that line North Terrace on that side if their planned native landscape theme goes ahead.
The eastern frontage of the Botantic Garden (Hackney Road), tried this native landscaping format, it looks shocking, is impractical, is very hot in summer. and does not entice visitors with a good entry feel.
We are in danger of making a blunder here with both the buildings position on the plot and the landscaping out the front, the proposed landscaping and associated water features could easily be moved to the rear of the building, or in the courtyard of the building, or stay at the front if the building is moved back.
Fair point about continuing the tree planting theme to join with the Botanic Garden.
[SWP] Re: Lot 14 (Old RAH Site)
Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2021 1:25 am
by Mpol02
Patrick_27 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 3:11 pm
Spotto wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 3:04 pm
Listy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 2:36 pm
That seems unlikely, last year Adelaide Uni comprehensively shelved any infrastructure development for the next 5-10 years, aside from urgent maintenance.
Was it shelved because of COVID or for other reasons?
Because the UoA was already broke, COVID only made it worse.
This sucks because that vision was wonderful.
[SWP] Lot 14 (Old RAH Site)
Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2021 1:03 am
by AndyWelsh
The 16-level, 35,000 square metre Entrepreneur and Innovation Centre (EIC) had development approval on 10 Feb by the State Commission Assessment Panel.
The Australian Government has committed up to $20 million in capital towards the establishment of the Innovation Hub on the first and ground floors of the EIC through the Adelaide City Deal.
Early site work has started, and the building complete by late 2023.
Note the new Lot Fourteen logo features on the top floor of the building. This logo is only a few weeks old, so perhaps quite a new render:
Previously this view had been shown as a white box:
It was also once this building, when a hotel (?) or something was planned here:
More here:
https://lotfourteen.com.au/news/go-ahea ... ion-centre
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[SWP] Re: Lot 14 (Old RAH Site)
Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2021 10:21 am
by cmet
10/10 when you consider the likes of Amazon and Accenture are tenants
[SWP] Re: Lot 14 (Old RAH Site)
Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:00 am
by gnrc_louis
Who is actually paying the costs of building it?
[SWP] Re: Lot 14 (Old RAH Site)
Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:20 am
by AndyWelsh
gnrc_louis wrote:Who is actually paying the costs of building it?
It sounds like this is all part of the Adelaide City Deal with all levels of Government involved in funding and running different elements. More here
https://www.infrastructure.gov.au/citie ... y-deal.pdf
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[SWP] Re: Lot 14 (Old RAH Site)
Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2021 12:25 pm
by gnrc_louis
AndyWelsh wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:20 am
gnrc_louis wrote:Who is actually paying the costs of building it?
It sounds like this is all part of the Adelaide City Deal with all levels of Government involved in funding and running different elements. More here
https://www.infrastructure.gov.au/citie ... y-deal.pdf
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Thanks, Andy.
Like the Oval hotel, I would rather the Government leave things like building offices to the private sector and keep hold of assets like public transport, roads etc.
[SWP] Re: Lot 14 (Old RAH Site)
Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2021 9:50 pm
by how good is he
Ok generally thats fair but this is Govt/Crown land. I know Govt could give land leases (ie 99 years) but I expect financing is far harder and private companies more reluctant.
