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[COM] Re: South Road Upgrade

#841 Post by Ben » Tue Apr 28, 2009 10:07 am

Surprised no one has posted this yet. Check out the video. I'm doubtful but would be amazing it it eventuated.

From The Advertiser:
RAA proposes 6km South Rd tunnel

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http://player.video.news.com.au/adelaid ... D4L_qEScVO

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April 27, 2009 11:31pm

THE RAA says a $2 billion tunnel should be built along South Rd from Anzac Hwy to Croydon to revitalise Adelaide's major transport corridor.

The 6km tunnel is the centrepiece of the RAA's $4 billion plan to transform South Rd into a 22km non-stop north-south expressway-style route within five years.

The RAA's "Towards 2020" report released today, outlines plans for the tunnel from the recently opened Gallipoli Underpass at Anzac Hwy to north of the Outer Harbor rail line at Croydon, as well as a series of overpasses or underpasses at every major South Rd intersection and rail crossing.

The RAA says while a tunnel is more expensive, traffic flow would be more efficient than just having a wider road.

The report also calls for:

URGENT upgrades to Victor Harbor Rd and Dukes Hwy, to be completed within five years.

IMPROVEMENTS to the "inner city ring route" including Park Tce and Britannia roundabout.

BUILDING road safety infrastructure, such as roadside and median safety barriers, high-speed roundabouts, overtaking lanes, road resurfacing and widening.

BYPASSES of towns including Renmark, Penola and Port Wakefield.

DUPLICATION of Victor Harbor Rd with bypasses at minor towns before 2020.

The report, which will today be presented to the State Government, has the approval of the Freight Council and other industry groups.

The State Government and transport groups put a similar South Rd route on the agenda in 2007 when Transport Minister Patrick Conlon, RAA, Freight Council, Business SA and SA Road Transport Association lobbied the Federal Government to include it in the Federal–funded AusLink network.

The Federal Government has honoured an election promise to add South Rd between Sir Donald Bradman Drive and the Southern Expressway to AusLink (now known as the National Land Transport Network) and committed $500 million to a South Rd upgrade. The RAA want the Federal and State governments to provide $2 billion each towards their latest plan that will stretch from Wingfield to Darlington.

Neither the RAA nor the State Government support placing tolls on existing roads in SA.

RAA public affairs manager Sharon Hanlon said South Rd was "without a doubt" the RAA's number one priority in metropolitan Adelaide and delaying the improvement beyond 2014 was not acceptable.

"I think as South Australians we need to be aware that the costs of these projects are not going to diminish over time and the longer we delay the more costly they will be," she said.

"The very first priority really needs to be the section between Regency Rd and Anzac Hwy where the work has already occurred. The work north of Regency Rd is already committed to but what we want to see is the 8.5km from Regency Rd and Anzac Hwy brought forward."

Ms Hanlon said RAA data showed travel speeds on roads parallel to South Rd were well below the acceptable average of 30km/h.

"We're definitely not at that in several sections along those routes," she said.

"A north-south corridor will not only alleviate what's happening on South Rd itself but also those other north-south roads and will even free up east-west flow because traffic will not bank up at intersections."

The report also reveals South Australians paid up to $424 more each in driving costs than interstate motorists last financial year but the state had the lowest expenditure per person on road construction and maintenance. The RAA estimates only 19 per cent of SA's motorist generated revenue is returned to the road network – the lowest proportion in the country, behind Victoria at 25.1 per cent.

"This is demonstrating that as individual motorists we are paying a lot but not getting what we should be back," Ms Hanlon said.

SA Freight Council chairman Vincent Tremaine said South Rd must be upgraded urgently because travel times were steadily getting worse.

"It's going to become more of a problem and not just for freight," he said.

"It's everyone's problem because it's the spine of Adelaide. If it's not working then everyone else feels it as well – not just the north-south traffic, it also holds up east-west travel."

Mr Tremaine said a free-flowing South Rd would help reduce the number of trucks travelling on Greenhill Rd and to and from Port Adelaide along Portrush, Hampstead and Grand Junction roads.

"I would think that Cross Rd would take some of that sort of traffic," he said.

"I think there would be a split of (freight) traffic that would lighten it up on both routes."

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#842 Post by Wayno » Tue Apr 28, 2009 10:20 am

RAA proposes 6km South Rd tunnel
More details available on RAA website http://www.raa.com.au/page.asp?TerID=658
Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work.

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#843 Post by stelaras » Tue Apr 28, 2009 10:20 am

Ben wrote:Surprised no one has posted this yet. Check out the video. I'm doubtful but would be amazing it it eventuated.

From The Advertiser:
RAA proposes 6km South Rd tunnel

Video:
http://player.video.news.com.au/adelaid ... D4L_qEScVO

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That looks amazing, would be a real benefit to the state but at a projected cost of around $6billion it simply will never happen...

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#844 Post by AtD » Tue Apr 28, 2009 10:31 am

Old news? I can't view the video at work, but it sounds like the one the RAA put out a year or three ago. It's probably in the back pages of this thread, where it was critiqued as is expected on this forum. (Car insurance company wants more cars! Gasp!)

If I remember correctly it started the discussions that became the "Great Roads Debate" thread.

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#845 Post by Norman » Tue Apr 28, 2009 11:59 am

Yep, it's the same video. More regurgitated news.

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#846 Post by ronaldo » Tue Apr 28, 2009 12:32 pm

It´s amazing as we are like dogs trying to catch their tail. Less old news and more action, that´s what Adelaide needs.

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#847 Post by AtD » Tue Apr 28, 2009 1:07 pm

Norman wrote:Yep, it's the same video. More regurgitated news.
I had a look at the Adelaide Now website - the same photos of a tunnel that looks like it should be a casino. Urgh.

This was the front page headline for the 'Tiser. Yet another reason the paper is rubbish.

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#848 Post by raulduke » Tue Apr 28, 2009 1:21 pm

if there was some tangible action on developing a north south corridor, then it might not be front page news

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#849 Post by rhino » Wed Apr 29, 2009 9:45 am

Hmmm....there's too much culture in this thread. :P
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#850 Post by frank1 » Wed Apr 29, 2009 12:37 pm

don't bother reading the adelaide now comments.....same old shit about a tram to no where, no vison, etc, etc

sometimes a feel like responding to people who say 'SA has had a so called boom for 10yrs and what do we have to show for it...a tram to no where' but then i realise it is like trying to argue with a brick wall :x

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#851 Post by drsmith » Wed Apr 29, 2009 2:09 pm

crawf wrote:It will probably be one giant underpass.
That's basically what the Mitchell Freeway is under Hay Street, Malcolm Street and the Mount Street footbridge.

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#852 Post by drwaddles » Sun May 10, 2009 4:58 pm

ricecrackers wrote:i would've thought the Sturt Road underpass would be of a higher priority as at least that will assist Southern suburbs traffic getting to the CBD quicker....... as all the underpasses are pointless until there is a long stretch of unimpeded driving, as otherwise the bottlenecks will just be moved further up the road.

i assume this could all be calculated quite easily using some kind of graphical software that simulates traffic flows after a change to an intersection is made. with the amount of money these types of road projects cost, the least they could do would be to invest in that type of technology at the very least to enable prioritization of these projects.
It would surprise me greatly if this has not been done (or is not being done at the moment), probably using the Paramics modelling suite. However, such an exercise requires very accurate data inputs to achieve accurate outputs, including very expensive and extensive origin-destination surveys. You would be looking at possibly several million dollars to do the entire length of South Road.

However, this is stock standard stuff that is done with all similar projects (and other forward planning which often never sees public light of day). The detail is what varies based on the purpose of the particular exercise.

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#853 Post by raulduke » Wed May 13, 2009 7:53 am

there was no mention of the $500mil for South Road in the Federal Budget that the Advertiser reported last week - infact, there was no new road funding for South Australia.

I cant seem to find the detailed list of projects in the budget on the website, does anybody know where to find it?

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#854 Post by ozisnowman » Wed May 13, 2009 9:26 am

Dont think they really made a mention of the funding for roads in SA as that has already been promised so
its not really new funding, what they did was talk about the new funding to speed up the Gawler Line
upgrade and the Norlunga Line upgrade and extensions etc.

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#855 Post by Norman » Wed May 13, 2009 10:40 am

The $500m for South Road is part of a different package. It was in the previous budget I think. This is not for national projects, but more for localised projects.

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