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#1246 Post by rhino » Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:09 pm

Currently it is non-stop 60km/h from Everard St at Ashford to Edward St at Melrose Park without the problems of which you speak. A 60km/h speed limit caters for it.
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#1247 Post by rev » Wed Apr 18, 2012 10:14 pm

mattblack wrote:What about all the driveways?

Tunnel would be the best but im not sure if we have the money any time soon. Widening looks like the most likely option which in my books would be an awful outcome.
What about them? I wasn't talking about properties on South Road it self. I was talking about limiting access to it from back streets which terminate at it.

Anyway, houses should not be permitted any longer along arterial roads like South Road.
You guys can argue all you want against freeways, but cities all over the world are still building them and others upgrading theirs.

I wonder what will happen with McDonalds and BP though. That's one of the most profitable maccas around I believe.

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#1248 Post by crawf » Thu Apr 19, 2012 1:17 am

mattblack wrote:What about all the driveways?

Tunnel would be the best but im not sure if we have the money any time soon. Widening looks like the most likely option which in my books would be an awful outcome.
It would be a very expensive project but it's probably the best solution to permanently fix this part of South Road and not become one mega eyesore, eg elevated highway in suburbia. Here's my idea >> Superway extended over Regency Road > South Road widened into 6 lanes which then goes underground just before Torrens Road. It will include a off ramp for motorists traveling to the airport and city on Sir Donald Bradman Dve and will eventually connect with an extended Anzac Highway underpass..... I'm sure people will disagree but that's my late night idea for tonight. :p

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#1249 Post by rev » Sun Apr 22, 2012 2:25 am

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/south-roa ... 6335188151

Article about it on AdelaideNow.
Here's two photos from the article which give you an idea about how big this thing is..and is going to be.

Approaching the Days road intersection.
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And an aerial of the area around the Days road intersection.
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#1250 Post by Kasey771 » Mon May 28, 2012 9:20 am

Had spare time getting to my destination On Sunday, took a slight detour(at 40kph of course) and whipped out the trusty iPhone. This thing is going to be so damned tall. I think people will get quite the shock at how high it is when its completed.
Heading South just after crossing the railway line near Cormack road:
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Just after GJRd intersection heading south:
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Still heading south approaching the golf course:
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Southbound near the TAFE:
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Northbound at GJRd intersection
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#1251 Post by AtD » Mon May 28, 2012 9:26 am

Jesus that's tall. Almost needlessly so.

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#1252 Post by Nort » Mon May 28, 2012 3:01 pm

AtD wrote:Jesus that's tall. Almost needlessly so.
I'm wondering if it's to reduce the impact on surrounding businesses. Obviously they are going to be shaded, but the taller it is the more space down below and the less it seems like they are basically underground.

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#1253 Post by mutt » Mon May 28, 2012 3:19 pm

the last one looks tall to ensure an overpass on a main road and large vehicles can pass thru underneath

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#1254 Post by rhino » Mon May 28, 2012 3:24 pm

Yes, it looks like they're making provision for someone who would like to tow a sailboat to the port. With the mast stepped.
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#1255 Post by Kasey771 » Mon May 28, 2012 4:28 pm

mutt wrote:the last one looks tall to ensure an overpass on a main road and large vehicles can pass thru underneath
Just a bit further up the road is the freight rail line to the Port. Have they started delivering the modules for the Air Warfare destroyer yet? Were they coming by Train or Barge? My gut feel is it is ridiculously high to allow for tall loads to pass underneath.
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#1256 Post by rev » Tue May 29, 2012 7:09 am

Kasey771 wrote:
mutt wrote:the last one looks tall to ensure an overpass on a main road and large vehicles can pass thru underneath
Just a bit further up the road is the freight rail line to the Port. Have they started delivering the modules for the Air Warfare destroyer yet? Were they coming by Train or Barge? My gut feel is it is ridiculously high to allow for tall loads to pass underneath.
Yes they've started delivering the modules. But they are arriving by sea directly at Osborne.
I think the reason it is so high is because it is an industrial area and heavy vehicles are the primary focus. It is not an overpass in suburban Adelaide.

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#1257 Post by Kasey771 » Tue May 29, 2012 8:18 am

rev wrote:
Kasey771 wrote:
mutt wrote:the last one looks tall to ensure an overpass on a main road and large vehicles can pass thru underneath
Just a bit further up the road is the freight rail line to the Port. Have they started delivering the modules for the Air Warfare destroyer yet? Were they coming by Train or Barge? My gut feel is it is ridiculously high to allow for tall loads to pass underneath.
Yes they've started delivering the modules. But they are arriving by sea directly at Osborne.
I think the reason it is so high is because it is an industrial area and heavy vehicles are the primary focus. It is not an overpass in suburban Adelaide.
Exactly , As I understand it the whole point of this is its a freight corridor upgrade, Its got almost nothing to do with the long desired N/S freeway for ADL car drivers. Once the Northern Connector is built It will be possible for trucks to get from the industrial Port area and surrounds(NW ADL) to parts North with no traffic lights of level crossings.
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#1258 Post by Ben » Tue May 29, 2012 11:25 am

From The messenger:
Parents call for South Rd overpass

29 May 12 @ 08:45am by Karen Rogers
FASTER traffic flows make a footbridge over South Rd an urgent priority, Black Forest Primary School parents say.

They say the tram overpass and Gallipoli underpass to the north have led to faster, heavier traffic flows past the school.

They fear for the safety of their children.

Rhianne Johns, whose children Darian, 10, and Anastasia, 8, attend the school, has helped set up a Facebook page calling for an overpass. The entry has 111 members.

“It’s most importantly for the children’s safety,” Ms Johns said.

“There are quite a lot of near misses, more in the past 18 months to two years since the tram track was lifted and the underpass was built ... Now it’s used like a racetrack.”

“Parents from the school think it’s only a matter of time before something more serious happens.”

A red-light speed camera was installed at the crossing this year in an effort to improve safety.

However, parent Mike Davis, who has two children attending the school, said the camera was only a “stop-gap measure”.

He said bollards and a longer pedestrian crossing time would be a start, but the footbridge was the ultimate solution.

“Little kids and heavy traffic don’t mix, that’s not a good recipe,” Mr Davis said.

“And you don’t want anyone to witness a child being run over by a truck - that image would be with them forever.”

Mr Davis said the Glandore tram overpass, about 300m north of the school, was too far away for parents with small children to use.

Black Forest’s school board chairman Stephen Halliday said: “The game changer was the tram being lifted, allowing a free flowing on South Rd.

“We’re very appreciative of the measures that the Government has taken, but in the long term an overpass is what we want.”

A Transport Department spokeswoman said the State Government had no plans to build an overpass as it would require the acquisition of land on both sides of South Rd.

Marion councillor Tim Pfeiffer has pushed the council to write to Transport Minister Patrick Conlon asking him to reconsider.

Neighbouring Unley Council was due to discuss the issue at its meeting this week.

The Facebook page is called Pedestrian overpass for South Road, Black Forest and Glandore.

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#1259 Post by rev » Tue Jul 10, 2012 1:46 pm

Some premises along South Road in the Croydon/Ridleyton area are being compulsorily acquired, some closing by the end of the month I believe.

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#1260 Post by Waewick » Tue Jul 10, 2012 2:27 pm

rev wrote:Some premises along South Road in the Croydon/Ridleyton area are being compulsorily acquired, some closing by the end of the month I believe.
sounds promising.

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