The SA Politics Thread

[Waewick]

The Advertiser pro Liberal? Yeah right. I just think they are trying to back the winner this election

[metro]

The Advertiser pro Liberal? Yeah right. I just think they are trying to back the winner this election

The Advertiser is owned by NewsCorp who also own the Daily Telegraph in Sydney, and when reporting politics.. as you can see they are not pro-Liberal at all

[Waewick]

News corp might be. But the advertiser is tailored for Adelaide and SA. Which is clearly Labor bias.

[Matt]

A fluff piece taking up 3/4 of the front page during an election campaign isn't bias?


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[rev]

News Ltd is a conservative mouth piece.
Old Rupert considers him self "king maker" when it comes to who gets elected to be Prime Minister.

The Advertiser/Sunday Mail are just the local arm of that conservative bias.

For weeks now Labor and the Premier have been cast in a negative light, the undertones are obvious.
While, as usual with potential Liberal Premiers(/pm) the criticism has been almost none existent.
They are portraying a positive image of Marshall and a negative one of Weatherill.

Why do I or the 1.3 million other South Aussies care about Marshall's sister? Is she the only one to suffer from cancer? Hope she beats it, but it's not front page news let alone a third of a page within the paper.

If News Ltd were giving both sides equal and similar coverage ok, but the bias is clear as day.

Yesterday's front page focus should have been about the winds and power outages to 100,000 premises. Not a touchy feely piece about the opposition leaders sisters health problems designed to pull on people's heart strings and win the guy sympathy votes.

But after all he has very few policies(Abbott hasn't told hi everything yet) so what else will the Liberals media woo voters with?

Marshall is Abotts lapdog. He has a party colleague in the big seat in Canberra, but he isn't doing a damn thing to fight for his state.

We will hear from Abbott regarding Holden just before the state election...his announcement is being timed to have maximum effect on people's short term memory and emotional response when they cast their vote.

Where is Marshall to demand quicker action? He's sitting behind Abbott at the opening of the Bendigo-Adelaid bank office at Rundle Place. Behind him...take note...Abbott calls and will be calling the big shots, not Marshall.

SA is in for more pain regardless of who wins the state election. One way or another Abbott will keep screwing SA over. Just wait till he has his way with the award rates. Wages will go down, while cost of living keeps increasing. And this will have a big impact on Adelaide.

The sad thing is people will be silly enough to vote for Abbott a second time this March in our state election.


And if you're in a public sector job, start looking for new employment in the private sector.

This election is Weatherill vs Abbott.
Marshall is just a bystander who will have Abbotts hand up his anus directing him if the Liberals win.

[Waewick]

Marschall isn't actually Abbotts lapdog.

I've asked this question to a heap of people I know involved in the Liberal Party.

As I mentioned in another thread, Marschall is unaligned to either of the internal divisions in the Labor Party (similar to poor old Ruddy) and appears on Face value not to be as conservative.

A storey on cancer? with a prominent connection? we get that all the bloody time, hell we even got a full day of it in the ashes

[[Shuz]]

Marschall isn't actually Abbotts lapdog.

I've asked this question to a heap of people I know involved in the Liberal Party.

As I mentioned in another thread, Marschall is unaligned to either of the internal divisions in the Labor Party (similar to poor old Ruddy) and appears on Face value not to be as conservative.

A storey on cancer? with a prominent connection? we get that all the bloody time, hell we even got a full day of it in the ashes

You mean he's unaligned to the internal divisions of the Liberal party.

What are their factions anyway? There's the Moderates and the Conservatives that I'm aware of. Is that all, or are the other factions / sub-factions?

Labor's is basically the Left (Socialist Left) and the Right (Labor Unity), but I understand that the Left also comprises of two sub-factions; the Hard Left and the Ferguson Left (soft left).

Both 'left' factions of either major party, the Labor Left and the Liberal Moderates are the minority. The 'right' factions, Labor Unity and Liberal Conservatives have a significant majority.

No wonder our politics is screwed. It's basically conservatism, socially and economically.

[monotonehell]

I wish all the political parties would stop with the blind ideology. The government we currently have are making policies based on it, instead of examining evidence and listening to non-partisan experts. It's sad watching this country sink under the weight of it. No one ideology has been proven to work, they all have good points and bad points. A more pragmatic and scientific stance is required. Lately the Greens have been looking like the sanest party - and that's saying something.

Less bollocks, more reason please.

(That's not to mention all the self-interested lobbying, kickbacks, jobs for the boys, pork-barrelling and so on that politics has enjoyed since the start.)

[Waewick]

Marschall isn't actually Abbotts lapdog.

I've asked this question to a heap of people I know involved in the Liberal Party.

As I mentioned in another thread, Marschall is unaligned to either of the internal divisions in the Labor Party (similar to poor old Ruddy) and appears on Face value not to be as conservative.

A storey on cancer? with a prominent connection? we get that all the bloody time, hell we even got a full day of it in the ashes

You mean he's unaligned to the internal divisions of the Liberal party.

What are their factions anyway? There's the Moderates and the Conservatives that I'm aware of. Is that all, or are the other factions / sub-factions?

Labor's is basically the Left (Socialist Left) and the Right (Labor Unity), but I understand that the Left also comprises of two sub-factions; the Hard Left and the Ferguson Left (soft left).

Both 'left' factions of either major party, the Labor Left and the Liberal Moderates are the minority. The 'right' factions, Labor Unity and Liberal Conservatives have a significant majority.

No wonder our politics is screwed. It's basically conservatism, socially and economically.

From what I understand they aren't as defined as Labors (which might be a bad thing) so what they actually stand for is anyones guess.

but Iagree, out political parties have become too inward focused and too few seem to have too much Power.

[monotonehell]

From what I understand, Federal Liberal factions are more defined than South Australian Liberal factions. The state Libs are more a group of rival business interests than your normal devolved and factioned political organisation.

[Waewick]

From what I understand, Federal Liberal factions are more defined than South Australian Liberal factions. The state Libs are more a group of rival business interests than your normal devolved and factioned political organisation.

interesting.

Well, I'm going to take the time find out....I might even try to report my findings back

[rev]

Marschall isn't actually Abbotts lapdog.

I've asked this question to a heap of people I know involved in the Liberal Party.

As I mentioned in another thread, Marschall is unaligned to either of the internal divisions in the Labor Party (similar to poor old Ruddy) and appears on Face value not to be as conservative.

A storey on cancer? with a prominent connection? we get that all the bloody time, hell we even got a full day of it in the ashes

You can not be serious...or can you?

How can you compare Glen McGrath campaigning to raise awareness and money for cancer research, after his wife's passing, to our media running a story about a political leaders family member during an election campaign designed to pull on peoples heart strings in the lead up to win sympathy for a man who has released sweet fuck all real policies for moving SA forward...? One of the biggest issues of all, the closure of Holden and the loss of almost 2,000 jobs directly at Holdens, and thousands more jobs which will be lost at components and parts manufacturers around the state...and his grand plan and vision for that issue is what exactly?
Nothing, he's just bitched a little about Weatherill's plan, and how it's Labors fault anyway.
He's still waiting for his puppet master in Canberra to reveal his plan right before our state election.

Cricket is used as the platform for Glen McGraths charity and raising awareness, because he was a successful cricketer.



Thousands of public sector jobs will be lost regardless of who wins. Labor has announced how many they plan on cutting. Why wont Marshall?

Labor is still committed to spending on public transport infrastructure. The Liberals probably wont continue the electrification of our train network, and more likely then not will not expand the tram network further. I doubt they will also continue the trial of the double decker bus.
Steven Marshall basically declared our public transport system is good enough, it just needs better management. In other words, he is NOT going to spend any money on upgrades, new infrastructure, etc.

Will the Liberals fund the continuation of the north-south corridor? Or will they stop with the Darlington upgrade?
Labor is pushing ahead with the Torrens to Torrens section by the looks of things. Will Marshall continue with it? Or will those empty lots be there for many more years to come if he wins in March?


Let's be honest now.
Labor may have grown our states debt, but they have also built up infrastructure and will continue to do so.
The Liberals however will privatize whatever they can, and will not build up our infrastructure, particularly our public transport networks.
Their whole "operation" is basically to cut as much government funding from everything they possibly can, privatize whatever they can, and create conditions where the average joe worker is working long hours for little reward while the big wigs at the top end of town count their money.

And if you doubt that, then pay attention to what Abbott wants to do next..cut the award rates.
Which means me and you, will take home less money, for the same work, or more work, while the cost of living will continue to rise.
By this time next year unleaded fuel will be above $2/liter the way it's going. It's already averaging $1.40/50, with highs now closer to $1.60. That's now, in February.

Utilities bills keep going up. Marshall says he will reduce those costs. But he wont say how he will do that.
He says he will cut company pay roll tax. But how will he pay for it? Just how many public sector jobs will he slash? 5,000, 10,000, 20,000?

Labor has built up our police force again, we now how have more police per capita then any other mainland state.
Whereas under the last Liberal state government, retiring officers/officers leaving the force, were not being replaced with new cadets. So we were losing man power. That has changed under Labor.
What will our police force look like under 4 years of Marshall and Abbott?

How many teachers will lose their jobs? How big will class sizes get?


And if you think our states media is fair and balanced, then I guess FOX and CNN in America present a fair, balanced and unbiased view of the rest of the world to Americans.

We can talk about the obvious biased favoritism shown towards the Crows, or we can talk about the obvious political bias in favor of the Liberal party.
Both are fine examples of how shit News Ltd services are in South Australia.
If only Fairfax, or some independent was capable or interested in expanding to SA.
Indaily really needs to expand and offer more online. Put out a weekly paper or magazine.

[ml69]

Rev ... are you member of the Labor party? Serious question ....

[Will]

Rev ... are you member of the Labor party? Serious question ....

He does raise some interesting and important points. The most important of which, is how Steven Marshall will most likely win the election, despite having little or no policies.

[Aidan]

rev -

'Tis hardly worth revealing figures for planned public sector job cuts because things are unlikely to go to plan anyway!

Why would anyone discontinue the double decker bus trial?

Labor is spending the money, but often doesn't have much to show for it. 'Tis only because the Liberals were so bad last time round that Labor have managed to hang on for so long.

And there's unlikely to be four years of Marshall and Abbott - more likely three of Marshall and Abbott and one of Marshall and Shorten.

But I agree with you about Fairfax. I wonder how much our economy will have to pick up before they launch a virtual paper like they did in Brisbane and Perth..?