The SA Politics Thread

[Waewick]

I won't be taking home less pay regardless of what Tony does.

If Marschall gets in it will be 8 years of Liberal

[claybro]

And there's unlikely to be four years of Marshall and Abbott - more likely three of Marshall and Abbott and one of Marshall and Shorten.

Shorten!!!!

[rev]

Rev ... are you member of the Labor party? Serious question ....

Nope, not a member of any political party nor involved in any way shape or form in politics.
And if you think I'm strictly pro Labor, you'd be surprised to know that I am completely behind Abbotts policy of turning back the boats and towing them back to Indonesia.
It's about time. But in reality, they are turning away one group, and will just let in others via the mining stuff.



@Waewick, I'm glad you wont be taking home less money if the modern award is changed. But many millions of Australians will be worse off.
Or is Tony Abbott and Joe Hockey going to magically make the cost of living come down as well?

The current average cost of ULP in Adelaide is just under $1.50..it aint coming down, it's only going up. And up. And up.

Fair enough that they want to make it easier for businesses to operate and create conditions for more businesses to open and prosper. But what about the cost of living?
You cant drop the wages of millions of people, and then expect them to survive while the cost of living keeps going up.
What are people supposed to do, take on second and third jobs? So basically millions of people will be working most of the day and night, not have enough sufficient down time, have little to no interaction with their families, their friends...?
Is Abbott going to boost funding for mental health in this country when thousands more people are strung out, depressed and suffering severe psychological break downs?

People aren't slaves. They aren't an expendable commodity that can be replaced if they break down.

Millions of families are already struggling. Just because no politician wants to talk about it, doesn't mean there isn't a huge problem festering in our society.
And this mob in office now want to cut the wages of millions of Australian workers.
Of course I'm sure it's Labors fault somehow.



@Aidan

Why would they discontinue the double decker bus trial?
Well, they may not, but I strongly doubt that a state Liberal government would fund the purchase of double decker buses for our bus fleet.
Lets not forget these people were strongly opposed to the tram extension through the City to the Entertainment Center. They said it would be a waste of money.
These same people also said Adelaide Oval would be a waste of money. Both have been a huge success.

And regarding the tram extension up Port Road to the Ent. Center, I think within about 10-15 years you will see something surprising happening along that stretch of Port Road. All I'll say for now, is that I've caught wind of something. And it's not tied to either political party.

I think it's tough to say if Marshall wins whether he will be a one term premier or pull off a second term. I think it's possible he can pull off a second term, if he manages to keep the Redmonds', Lucas' etc under control and quiet. But the moment that lot start getting in front of the cameras, it's all over for them.

Shorten will never be Prime Minister. If he becomes PM, I'll consider moving to another country.

Perhaps Fairfax should buy InDaily.

[Aidan]

Shorten will never be Prime Minister. If he becomes PM, I'll consider moving to another country.

Isn't that what people said about Abbott? And do you really think Shorten would be any worse?

Unless Albo manages to roll Shorten (unlikely) or Turnbull deposes Abbott (even more unlikely), Shorten's likely to win simply by not being Abbott.

[rev]

Abbott didn't take a leading role in taking down two Prime Ministers within his own party.
Shorten is a snake who shouldn't be trusted by his own party colleagues, let alone the Australian people.

I'd rather ten terms of Tony Abbott then a single term of Bill Shorten.

[Aidan]

Abbott didn't take a leading role in taking down two Prime Ministers within his own party.

Just one opposition leader.

Shorten is a snake who shouldn't be trusted by his own party colleagues, let alone the Australian people.

Shorten is a politician - film at eleven!

I'd rather ten terms of Tony Abbott then a single term of Bill Shorten.

You think the PM's political security is so much more important than the wellbeing of Australians and the environment?

[rev]

News Ltd just keep dishing it up..
Barely any mention of Marshall's policies, or lack of...mention of his sick sister thought..because that's important to an election campaign, obviously.

But plenty of mention of Labors problems.
Lots of talk and foregone assumptions in articles how Labor has lost the election.
Lots of talk about what will happen after the lost election.

But still not mention of Marshall or his policies.


It's basically a repeat on a smaller scale of what happened during the federal election.

There was no focus on Abbott, or his lack of policies, and lots of focus on Labors internal divisions. Because the Liberal party doesn't have it's own factions and internal divisions.


Absolute disgrace.

[Vee]

Extremely sad to see the death of the Australian car industry - car manufacturing and the supply chain of component manufacturers, with the announcement that Toyota is pulling out of manufacturing in Australia.

Australia needs to invest in more high tech, science, innovation, medical/health research, food technology, knowledge economy and clean energy jobs.

This jobs announcement by the Premier, Hewlett Packard and UniSA today is a boon for Adelaide, SA jobs and the emerging North Terrace precinct.

Hewlett Packard to create 100s of Jobs in Adelaide.

The announcement included an 'Innovation and Collaboration Centre' in conjunction with UniSA on North Terrace.
This rapidly developing world class health/medical/science/IT/research precinct is going from strength to strength.

Global technology giant Hewlett Packard (HP) is to expand its presence in Adelaide, with the creation of about 430 high-end technology jobs over the next four years. An Innovation and Collaboration Centre is to be set up within the University of South Australia's new building in the city's North Terrace.

The SA government will provide a $5.5 million grant to the university to help set it up and $150,000 yearly for a student entrepreneur initiative, premier Jay Weatherill said on Monday.
The centre is to give students and small businesses access to HP's global capabilities, he added.

HP South Pacific managing director Nick Wilson said a similar university set-up had been successful in the UK.
"Our collaboration with UniSA in developing a four-year honours degree with give South Australian students access to world-leading ICT education," he said.

Premier Weatherill said beyond providing jobs, the initiative would be "the engine they put into the economy to create other enterprises".
"What will cascade out of the university are people with these four-year degrees, these honours degrees.
"Obviously the cream of the crop will be picked by HP as part of the their intern program."

This would provide an enormous talent base for the state and help foster economic development.
The entrepreneur initiative will support innovative students to pursue commercialisation of new ideas in the ICT sector in partnership with HP and other companies, the premier said.

The government will support training to help workers move into the ICT sector.

The university's vice chancellor Professor David Lloyd said the new partnership was a model for industry and university collaboration and the centre would be a first for any Australian university.

http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2014 ... laide-jobs

Yahoo Ch 7 News video.
http://yhoo.it/1dBdmGf

The SAHMRI is gaining excellent media attention.
Today's announcement will add to the prestige and importance of this multi-faceted and collaborative precinct to SA's economy.

[Ho Really]

[...]

Australia needs to invest in more high tech, science, innovation, medical/health research, food technology, knowledge economy and clean energy jobs.

Agreed. In all the sciences in other words.

Hewlett Packard to create 100s of Jobs in Adelaide.

Let's wait and see whether they are local or not and whether it's just playing politics.

Cheers

[Howie]

[...]

Hewlett Packard to create 100s of Jobs in Adelaide.

Let's wait and see whether they are local or not and whether it's just playing politics.

Cheers

There's more to the HP announcement than meets the eye, take anything you read regarding this with a grain of salt at this stage.

[Will]

Very disappointing policy from the Liberals. It adds to their equally disappointing policy regarding Roseworthy.

From the ABC:

Councils welcome Liberal pledge on planning laws

Posted Fri 14 Feb 2014, 10:11am AEDT




The Local Government Association (LGA) has welcomed an Opposition pledge on planning powers.

The Liberals have promised to reverse a Government decision, if elected at the March 15 South Australian poll.

The Government changed planning laws last year to take control of some multi-storey development approvals away from councils.

Lorraine Rosenberg of the LGA says councils are an important part of the planning process.

"I think it's a bit of a myth that councils are standing in the way of development, I think that's a complete myth ... if you look at the figures and the facts behind the applications and the approval processes that have been successful," she said.

"Councils have a responsibility, as a close level of government to the people, who represent people and their communities' views in the development plans that we put together.

"On the one hand it's OK for us to have the expertise to set the plans but on the other the Government is arguing that it's not good enough for us to make the planning decision."

The Property Council says it is disappointed with the Liberal Party promise.

Executive director Richard Angove thinks the planning powers should remain with State Government.

"The powers for approval were wrestled away from local government ... to streamline the position, to give greater certainty to developers undertaking applications in the inner rim of Adelaide, so we're disappointed," he said.

Opposition planning spokeswoman Vickie Chapman says the Government's aim had been to speed approvals, but councils need to remain part of the process.

"We recognise the importance of timely decisions and local government need to be mindful of that. The importance to us though is that it's better to improve the system if there's some unreasonable delay rather than simply take away the responsibility," she said.

[rev]

Are you really surprised?
I'm not.

South Australia will be royally fucked, if the Liberal party wins the state election.
Not only will we be royally fucked because Marshall and the rest of those incompetent children will do their utmost to destroy the state, they will be in league with their federal counterparts who will screw us hard.

Sorry for my language mods.

You've got virtually no real policies from Marshall yet. A month from an election.
The few things he has told us about, he wont tell us the full details, like how many public sector jobs he will cut.

You then have the federal Liberal government preparing the ground to sell off state assets.
And that's exactly what's going to happen if Marshall wins the election.

If anyone here thinks they pay too much for water under the current regime, then you are in for a very very big kick in the nads when Hockey and Marshall sell off SA Water.
It's almost a foregone conclusion that it will be privatized if Marshall wins.


And naturally, when they officially announce it(after the election if Marshall wins), they will blame Labor.


Get ready for tough times come March.

[Waewick]

They won't sell off SA water. Even the article said no one had suggested it except a Bank.

[Waewick]

Very disappointing policy from the Liberals. It adds to their equally disappointing policy regarding Roseworthy.

From the ABC:

Councils welcome Liberal pledge on planning laws

Posted Fri 14 Feb 2014, 10:11am AEDT




The Local Government Association (LGA) has welcomed an Opposition pledge on planning powers.

The Liberals have promised to reverse a Government decision, if elected at the March 15 South Australian poll.

The Government changed planning laws last year to take control of some multi-storey development approvals away from councils.

Lorraine Rosenberg of the LGA says councils are an important part of the planning process.

"I think it's a bit of a myth that councils are standing in the way of development, I think that's a complete myth ... if you look at the figures and the facts behind the applications and the approval processes that have been successful," she said.

"Councils have a responsibility, as a close level of government to the people, who represent people and their communities' views in the development plans that we put together.

"On the one hand it's OK for us to have the expertise to set the plans but on the other the Government is arguing that it's not good enough for us to make the planning decision."

The Property Council says it is disappointed with the Liberal Party promise.

Executive director Richard Angove thinks the planning powers should remain with State Government.

"The powers for approval were wrestled away from local government ... to streamline the position, to give greater certainty to developers undertaking applications in the inner rim of Adelaide, so we're disappointed," he said.

Opposition planning spokeswoman Vickie Chapman says the Government's aim had been to speed approvals, but councils need to remain part of the process.

"We recognise the importance of timely decisions and local government need to be mindful of that. The importance to us though is that it's better to improve the system if there's some unreasonable delay rather than simply take away the responsibility," she said.

I find it disappointing as well.

Do we have a list of things that were built but declined by the council we could give to the Libs?

[rev]

They are talking about how SA Water could be sold off for $13 billion, and that money can be used to fund infrastructure in the state.
The FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, not a Bank, has come up with their typical Liberal conservative platform of privatization.

Whether a Federal minister or a Liberal conservatives best friend from a Bank has made a public suggestion, it doens't matter.
Because that is what the Federal Liberal government intend to do at some stage. And if the state Liberals come into government here in March, that's what will likely happen here.

Read between the lines.