The SA Politics Thread

[Mpol02]

I think once this alt-right wave washes over everyone in another five/ten years, the Liberal party will have to look inward and reinvent itself. Australia is far too centre for this rhetoric to be embraced aside from a few (as see in the recent Federal election).

People are tired of the political establishments. Both sides fail to move the needle forward enough; it's often business as usual, barring a few policies. The liberal party have the chance to rebuild and bring in someone that is fresh with some strong ideas. I won't hold my breath but things change very quickly.

[SBD]

This shows that the Liberal Party is dead. Beyond saving.

The question then is: what are the large numbers of people who are generally centre right going to do?

With the Liberals having abandoned them, who is to represent their interests? Antic certainly doesn't.

We've had a parade of small parties trying to capture that centre right, but none have succeeded. Don Chipp, Xenophon, the Centre Alliance have all had a go, but gained no traction. Are there so few people on the centre right that there's nobody with enough numbers to form a viable opposition to hold Mali to account?

It seems likely to me that challengers/oppositions of the future – both Federal and State – will come from the left. The voting patterns for under 35s tell the story.

Indeed. Is the ALP gradually moving to occupy that Centre-Right vacuum, with the Greens moving in to the traditional Labor Left?

[SBD]

The open border policy aka mass migration is part of the reason we are in the housing crisis mess at an accelerated rate. But yeh sure, lets bring more people in when we cant sustain the people already here.
Australia, and South Australia in particular, have de-industrialised. We don't need mass migration to grow our industrial base, because our industrial base is long gone.

We need immigration - Australia does not produce enough doctors, aged-care workers or building tradespeople to fill our needs.

One of your other posts suggested immigrants who come from countries where apartment living is normal should be forced to live in apartments for their first few years here. I disagree with the compulsion, but see no issue with providing affordable, attractive apartment living in the areas where we want people to live and work.

If we don't want clogged roads and huge carparks, we need to provide homes and public transport so people can get from home to work, shops, school, church, medical, family and socialise without needing a car. That includes people who work hours other than weekday 9-5, or who like to go out in the evening or weekend.

[rev]

The open border policy aka mass migration is part of the reason we are in the housing crisis mess at an accelerated rate. But yeh sure, lets bring more people in when we cant sustain the people already here.
Australia, and South Australia in particular, have de-industrialised. We don't need mass migration to grow our industrial base, because our industrial base is long gone.

We need immigration - Australia does not produce enough doctors, aged-care workers or building tradespeople to fill our needs.

One of your other posts suggested immigrants who come from countries where apartment living is normal should be forced to live in apartments for their first few years here. I disagree with the compulsion, but see no issue with providing affordable, attractive apartment living in the areas where we want people to live and work.

If we don't want clogged roads and huge carparks, we need to provide homes and public transport so people can get from home to work, shops, school, church, medical, family and socialise without needing a car. That includes people who work hours other than weekday 9-5, or who like to go out in the evening or weekend.

The problem isn't migrants, the problem is the unsustainable numbers.

If our governments migration policies were truly aimed at filling skills shortages, considering the 2.6 million people who have migrated to Australia in the last 5 years, we wouldn't have a skills shortage in any sector would we.

[rubberman]

The open border policy aka mass migration is part of the reason we are in the housing crisis mess at an accelerated rate. But yeh sure, lets bring more people in when we cant sustain the people already here.
Australia, and South Australia in particular, have de-industrialised. We don't need mass migration to grow our industrial base, because our industrial base is long gone.

We need immigration - Australia does not produce enough doctors, aged-care workers or building tradespeople to fill our needs.

One of your other posts suggested immigrants who come from countries where apartment living is normal should be forced to live in apartments for their first few years here. I disagree with the compulsion, but see no issue with providing affordable, attractive apartment living in the areas where we want people to live and work.

If we don't want clogged roads and huge carparks, we need to provide homes and public transport so people can get from home to work, shops, school, church, medical, family and socialise without needing a car. That includes people who work hours other than weekday 9-5, or who like to go out in the evening or weekend.

We need immigration, but we need the housing and infrastructure to go with it.

Australia did it successfully in the 1940s and 1950s. In SA, Sir Thomas Playford formed ETSA and the SA Housing Trust. Cheap power and cheap housing was the result. That drew immigrants and industry and SA thrived. Dunstan saw the need for more housing in the late 70s and proposed Monarto with 200,000 population. With that extra housing, and ETSA providing cheap power, we'd now be making a killing in SA.

However, the people who destroyed ETSA and the SA Housing Trust, and thwarted Dunstan are not only unapologetic for the damage they did, but apparently think it's immigrants who are the problem. They deserve to be obliterated at the next election unless they do a complete about turn and return to the tried and true policies of Playford.

The tragic thing is that we could afford this easily. Australians lose $24bn per year on gambling. With a snap of the fingers, that totally unproductive money drain could be diverted to productive housing. Again, something Tom Playford would do immediately.