Riverlea (Buckland Park) | 12,000 dwellings | $3b

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Re: Riverlea (Buckland Park) | 12,000 dwellings | $3b

#481 Post by neoballmon » Fri Jun 20, 2025 12:25 am

Why not a semi-express bus route that runs through Two Wells, Riverlea Park and Virginia like a normal bus route but then jumping on the Connector non stop (with a possible stop at a new Park and Ride in Bolivar) to Port Road?

It could stop at the Entertainment Centre connecting to trams, or head into the city.
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#482 Post by Norman » Fri Jun 20, 2025 6:23 pm

Probably because not everyone works in the CBD. The census next year will shed some light where people in Riverlea work and help inform planning.

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#483 Post by Modbury_Man » Fri Jun 20, 2025 8:55 pm

neoballmon wrote:
Fri Jun 20, 2025 12:25 am
Why not a semi-express bus route that runs through Two Wells, Riverlea Park and Virginia like a normal bus route but then jumping on the Connector non stop (with a possible stop at a new Park and Ride in Bolivar) to Port Road?

It could stop at the Entertainment Centre connecting to trams, or head into the city.
Not a bad idea...definitely would be interesting to trial and likely quite quick, even at peak hour.

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#484 Post by SBD » Fri Jun 20, 2025 9:17 pm

Modbury_Man wrote:
Fri Jun 20, 2025 8:55 pm
neoballmon wrote:
Fri Jun 20, 2025 12:25 am
Why not a semi-express bus route that runs through Two Wells, Riverlea Park and Virginia like a normal bus route but then jumping on the Connector non stop (with a possible stop at a new Park and Ride in Bolivar) to Port Road?

It could stop at the Entertainment Centre connecting to trams, or head into the city.
Not a bad idea...definitely would be interesting to trial and likely quite quick, even at peak hour.
In morning peak time, the queue for the traffic lights at Port Road extends into the Motorway Trench, sometimes back as far as before the road descends. It would be challenging for the bus to keep to schedule, but as there would only be dropoff stops past there, it would really only be an issue for the next journey scheduled for that bus.

This is the most sensible solution for providing public transport if the assumption that urban sprawl is all about CBD workers. Buses to Port Adelaide-Osborne, Angle Vale-Riverbanks College-Gawler and Two Wells-Dublin also look sensible as well as evening and weekend services if an objective is to remove car dependence.

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#485 Post by 5000 » Sun Jun 22, 2025 10:18 pm

Norman wrote:
Fri Jun 20, 2025 6:23 pm
Probably because not everyone works in the CBD. The census next year will shed some light where people in Riverlea work and help inform planning.
Finally a sensible answer!

Do people really think the majority of these residents are commuting to the CBD for work?!

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#486 Post by Nort » Mon Jun 23, 2025 9:44 am

5000 wrote:
Sun Jun 22, 2025 10:18 pm
Norman wrote:
Fri Jun 20, 2025 6:23 pm
Probably because not everyone works in the CBD. The census next year will shed some light where people in Riverlea work and help inform planning.
Finally a sensible answer!

Do people really think the majority of these residents are commuting to the CBD for work?!
A majority? Not sure. At least a significant minority? Almost certainly.

Source: existing developments like Mount Barker in SA, most similar outer suburban developments in NSW and VIC, and the marketing material from the Riverlea developers spruiking the commute time to the CBD as a selling point.

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#487 Post by [Shuz] » Tue Jun 24, 2025 8:26 am

I wouldn't exactly call Riverlea self-sufficient.

Every single employed person living there are travelling somewhere else for work.

I don't think there's even a supermarket there yet. That's dire. No basic services. Your whole lifestyle is car dependent.
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Re: Riverlea (Buckland Park) | 12,000 dwellings | $3b

#488 Post by SBD » Tue Jun 24, 2025 5:52 pm

[Shuz] wrote:
Tue Jun 24, 2025 8:26 am
I wouldn't exactly call Riverlea self-sufficient.

Every single employed person living there are travelling somewhere else for work.

I don't think there's even a supermarket there yet. That's dire. No basic services. Your whole lifestyle is car dependent.
That’s the reality of being an early adopter in any new housing estate/suburb. Woolworths in Virginia is only five kilometres away. There is still some employment in the remaining part of Buckland Park, and plenty of construction work in Riverlea itself. The school is set to open in January 2027, so will need teachers and other staff then. People who work in Virginia, Angle Vale, Dublin, Two Wells etc would already be driving to work anyway, so starting from Riverlea is no different.

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