[U/C] 88 O'Connell Street | 63m | 13, 13 and 15 Levels | Mixed Use

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#151 Post by Will » Wed Jan 16, 2008 4:39 pm

These NIMBY societies are a great embarrassment for Adelaide. I just hope that people form interstate do not read such articles, because I can only imagine the laughter (at our expense), when these NIMBYs refer to a 6 storey building as 'towering' and 'Gold Coast' like. Furthermore someone should tell these people we are living in the year 2008, and their desire to preserve Adelaide as their exclusive and quaint village are completely unacceptable!

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#152 Post by AG » Wed Jan 16, 2008 5:26 pm

The villages belong the areas north, south and east of Adelaide. There are some nice and well preserved villages not far out of Adelaide if people desire to live in such places. Villages do not belong in the middle of the city and in well-trafficked corridors such as North Adelaide. North Adelaide is not even anything like a village IMO.

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#153 Post by ozisnowman » Wed Jan 16, 2008 6:17 pm

Maybe those NIMBY's need to be taught a lesson

How about Makris build a 3 storey shanty town which complies
with the Council Height Limits and has a miss mash of different
style buildings painted in all different colours one pink, one
blue, one yellow, one purple, one orange etc etc...
I am sure such an unsightly mess would make those
NIMBYS puck and wish they has supported his current proposal.

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#154 Post by shaun » Wed Jan 16, 2008 7:59 pm

FFS North Adelaide is a inner city suburb not a village, if you want a village go look in the Adelaide Hills or some of the south eastern suburbs.

Thankgod this in the State Government hands, 6 levels is not even high and the site is just plain and simply a eyesore it ruins O'Connell Street and a major embarrassment.

Norman wrote:It's time to ban all these shitty Societies...
Agreed, these societies are doing nothing to improve Adelaide. They would rather Adelaide just stay stagnant and rather just bitch and whine about young people leaving Adelaide.

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#155 Post by JamesXander » Thu Jan 17, 2008 12:13 am

I say to beat these old baffons we start pumping all the student housing aparetments into North Adelaide. Get the median age below 30. Fresh Ideas, fresh thinking. The place will turn about and become part of the city. Ofcourse no huge highrises. But since when has 6 storeys been 'huge' for gods sake.

If North Adelaide is a village then I see it as serving no purpose for the city of Adelaide besides giving a ring of parklands around the rich. If they claim it to be a village I say bulldoze it all down and turn it into parklands. KALAR, we all happy.

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#156 Post by bva » Thu Jan 17, 2008 2:22 am

i suggest that you mobilise the 'forces' to ensure a high number of supportive comments as possible
remember that planning decisiions can hinge on these matters and in a balance sheet you need good written responses to counter groups such as the North Adelaide Society.
and if you know people that live in north adelaide then write a supportive letter for them and get it signed

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#157 Post by Brando » Thu Jan 17, 2008 4:25 pm

Maybe we should get in contact with the Makris Group, make them aware of this site and ask how we can help and support this project!!!
This vacant site has been a blight on the Adelaide landscape for too long. As far as i'm concerned the North Adelaide society should be kissing his A@$ for what he has done for (North) Adelaide and what he intends to do.

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#158 Post by MaximumForce » Thu Jan 17, 2008 5:08 pm

I live in North Adelaide and would like to help. Any details on how I can?

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#159 Post by jk1237 » Thu Jan 17, 2008 7:33 pm

I agree. Ok, some parts of North Adl do have a village atmosphere that should be preserved, but O'connell St aint one of them. Its almost a arterial road and there are 2 buildings only about 50 mtrs away that are over 8 storeys, that actually add vibrancy to the streetscape. Bring on the development.

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#160 Post by Will » Thu Jan 17, 2008 9:52 pm

MaximumForce wrote:I live in North Adelaide and would like to help. Any details on how I can?
The best thing you could do is submit a submission during the public consultation process, showing your support for the project, and outline how it is good for the area. It is paramount that the public consultation process receives positive responses from North Adelaide residents. This would balance out the expected NIMBY crusade against the project.

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#161 Post by skyliner » Fri Jan 18, 2008 4:55 pm

Will, is there any such process known about yet - I want to address this.

I am 56 YO. I encourage you all to know that not all people my age think in the nimby super conservative way AS said, Nth. Adelaide is an INNER suburb with an ARTERIAL road in O'Connell St. There is plemty of room for the village concept - but this road is not creating a village ambiance. It already has hi rise but to say the Makris project is hi rise is rediculous. It is definitely not in the style of the gold coast.(also over 80 floors now as I gather) I challenge anyone to take a look I live farly close and there is nothing like this project (heavily European in design). WHAT is the problem with Nth. Adelaide people?

Having buildimgs in the style proposed is FAR better than the current eyesore - which I understand has been the preference for years. What an introduction to Adelaide!

Anything going guys, that will help me address this, please post. (Not being in Adelaide does not help with access - as I found out on my last visit there in Jan. 2008. - got heaps of new info in just 2 weeks - will gradually get posted).

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#162 Post by Will » Sat Jan 19, 2008 10:46 am

skyliner wrote:Will, is there any such process known about yet - I want to address this.

I am 56 YO. I encourage you all to know that not all people my age think in the nimby super conservative way AS said, Nth. Adelaide is an INNER suburb with an ARTERIAL road in O'Connell St. There is plemty of room for the village concept - but this road is not creating a village ambiance. It already has hi rise but to say the Makris project is hi rise is rediculous. It is definitely not in the style of the gold coast.(also over 80 floors now as I gather) I challenge anyone to take a look I live farly close and there is nothing like this project (heavily European in design). WHAT is the problem with Nth. Adelaide people?

Having buildimgs in the style proposed is FAR better than the current eyesore - which I understand has been the preference for years. What an introduction to Adelaide!

Anything going guys, that will help me address this, please post. (Not being in Adelaide does not help with access - as I found out on my last visit there in Jan. 2008. - got heaps of new info in just 2 weeks - will gradually get posted).

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I imagine there will be a public consultation process coming up soon. However, I am not sure whether the public consultation will only be open for local residents, or if it will be like the tram line extension consultation, where they put up a stall in Rundle Mall, where anyone can make a submission. I will find out more!

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#163 Post by skyliner » Sat Jan 19, 2008 3:02 pm

VERY much appreciated mate! As said, I feel quite constricted at to input as the moment and don't want to just sit on the side when I have experience in written essays, analytical/argumentative reasoning etc through my profession.

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#164 Post by MaximumForce » Sun Jan 20, 2008 1:19 am

Today I was walking home from the Archer hotel and on my way I bumped into a camera man and a hot chick (who was the interviewer). They were asking ppl walking down Archer st how they felt about the Le Cornu development now that it has been cut down to 4 levels and that it won't have a cinema. I was like what! it went from 9... to 6... and now 4 levels?!? I have a feeling though that she got it wrong (otherwise we would know about it right?).

So they got the camera rolling and the hot chick asked me a question (I'd had a few beverages at the Archer so was not really totally mentally alert) Anyway I said a few things in support of the developers, then I completely lost it right at then end and said something that didn't really make sense at all and I kept thinking oh no the whole of South Australia is going to think I am a loony... But generally I felt that what I said made sense (in the beginning anyway) I was stressing out later wanting to go back with notes to give a prepared statement - but what do they expect when they are asking random ppl and taking them by surprise - all they are really after is a a 2 second sound bite they can use.
Not sure who they were, I didn't see a number on the camera so maybe it was not for t.v.? But I'm thinking that babe had that type of look about her that she had to be in television.

I hope someone can quell these rumors about the height being only 4 lvls and the cinema being dropped...

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#165 Post by SRW » Sun Jan 20, 2008 2:31 am

Following on from MaximumForce's post above, the following article came to my attention:
Le Cornu development plans set to be released
Posted Sat Jan 19, 2008 11:47am AEDT
ABC News Online

The Makris Group is about to release its latest plans for a residential and commercial development on the former Le Cornu site in north Adelaide.

The retail property group which owns the vacant site on O'Connell Street was last year given major development status for the project by the State Government.

Initial plans for a seven-storey residential complex with a supermarket and cinemas was opposed by the Adelaide City Council.

Councillor Anne Moran says the latest proposal for a four-storey development would be more acceptable.

"If it's indeed only four storeys high, then that would be well within what council would consider as appropriate," she said.

"The limit now is quite a strict three storeys, but you can go above that as long as it's not too far above.

"If it is indeed four storeys I think that's certainly been a big improvement from the previous scheme, which was seven to nine storeys [high]."

More details of the application will be released next week, followed by a six-week consultation process.
I wonder when these revised plans will be released? The article made it sound fairly immediate?
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