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Re: Glenelg Tram Line Upgrade

#1951 Post by AtD » Thu May 08, 2008 9:32 pm

Fantastic concept. :)

Although I do worry that the platform will attract loiterers because it's elevated about above street level, away from eyes of passers by.

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Re: Glenelg Tram Line Upgrade

#1952 Post by Norman » Thu May 08, 2008 9:45 pm

AtD wrote:Fantastic concept. :)

Although I do worry that the platform will attract loiterers because it's elevated about above street level, away from eyes of passers by.
To combat that, they should have really good lighting, make it as bright as possible, and install lots of security cameras, and advertise that fact.

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Re: Glenelg Tram Line Upgrade

#1953 Post by Will409 » Thu May 08, 2008 10:59 pm

Considering that the design borrows heavily from a combination of Mawson Lakes interchange and the tramstops on the extension, I don't think lighting is really going to be an issue. I do really like the look of it. There is one thing I wish it could have and that is a bus interchange for South Road bus services. My mind is now ticking over if such a thing is possible at the current Goodwood Flyover.

EDIT: Just read the article properly, discard my statement about the bus interchange, looks like there will be one.
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Re: Glenelg Tram Line Upgrade

#1954 Post by Howie » Thu May 08, 2008 11:47 pm

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First look at $28m tram overpass
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LAUREN NOVAK

May 09, 2008 12:30am

THE first images of the planned $28 million South Rd tram overpass have been released by the State Government.

Four colour artist's impressions - distributed to nearby properties late yesterday - show how the new bridge will change the streetscape of the main thoroughfare.

Trams will run in both directions over the 7m wide, 40m long platform, to be built 7.5m above ground level.

Passengers will use lifts and stairs to reach the sheltered platform, with car parks, indented bus bays and ``people-friendly'' spaces underneath.

Screens and safety barriers will ``prevent objects being thrown from the overpass and overlooking into private property backyards''.

The overpass is expected to be completed by the end of next year. Documents about the images warn the end result ``may well look different from this preliminary concept''.

Transport Minister Patrick Conlon said these concept plans were the result of ``a great deal of consultation''. ``We look forward to working with the community on a final design,'' he said.

The Transport Department will lodge an application with the Development Assessment Commission in the coming weeks. A community information session will be held Saturday, May 24, from 10am to 2pm at Black Forest Primary School, with street meetings the following week.

Feedback must be received by the department by June 6. A final design will be put out for further comment later this year.

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Re: Glenelg Tram Line Upgrade

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Re: Glenelg Tram Line Upgrade

#1956 Post by SRW » Fri May 09, 2008 12:47 am

Thanks for that link, Norman -- it covered a few of my questions.

It's a good concept render. I really do hope they pursue the 'artistic' element in the screen designs; the last thing we need is another bland piece of infrastructure. Melbourne's been quite good in recent years of making public art of infrastructure, and I hope that's a tendency that can be engendered here.
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Re: Glenelg Tram Line Upgrade

#1957 Post by Wayno » Fri May 09, 2008 7:57 am

Norman wrote:
AtD wrote:Fantastic concept. :)

Although I do worry that the platform will attract loiterers because it's elevated about above street level, away from eyes of passers by.
To combat that, they should have really good lighting, make it as bright as possible, and install lots of security cameras, and advertise that fact.
...and play classical music at a low level 24/7. This has been proven to rattle even the most persistent loiterers!
Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work.

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Re: Glenelg Tram Line Upgrade

#1958 Post by muzzamo » Fri May 09, 2008 9:03 am

This reminds me of the bus interchanges for the new busways in brisbane... dont know why :-)

I wonder if the next budget announcement regarding trams is going to be another overpass like this over goodwood road and a bunch more trams to go with the grade separation (they could terminate after south road)

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Re: Glenelg Tram Line Upgrade

#1959 Post by Wayno » Fri May 09, 2008 9:05 am

Appears the tram overpass will be built well after the south rd/anzac hwy underpass is complete :-( is this true?
Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work.

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Re: Glenelg Tram Line Upgrade

#1960 Post by muzzamo » Fri May 09, 2008 9:06 am

however it needs far, far more car parking...

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Re: Glenelg Tram Line Upgrade

#1961 Post by Shuz » Fri May 09, 2008 10:36 am

Just what I wanted! I live near here, and so I don't have any problems with it at all. In fact, its all I could ask for. Good going Rann!

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Re: Glenelg Tram Line Upgrade

#1962 Post by rhino » Fri May 09, 2008 1:29 pm

Very impressed 8)
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Re: Glenelg Tram Line Upgrade

#1963 Post by AtD » Fri May 09, 2008 5:07 pm

muzzamo wrote:however it needs far, far more car parking...
There's no space. You couldn't get away with demolishing houses for a car park.

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Re: Glenelg Tram Line Upgrade

#1964 Post by muzzamo » Fri May 09, 2008 5:22 pm

how about that waterbeds place then :-) Does anyone even still buy waterbeads??

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Re: Glenelg Tram Line Upgrade

#1965 Post by Cruise » Fri May 09, 2008 6:10 pm

muzzamo wrote:Does anyone even still buy waterbeads??
Pornstars maybe?

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